rage against the stated posistion of the church for ever!!!
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US bishops have bent the knee to the will of the bully
Uniting in homophobia, the Anglican church has delivered another blow to the battle against global religious fascism
Giles Fraser
Thursday September 27, 2007
The Guardian
After months of "Anglican church to divide" headlines, the end is, at last, nigh. Those Anglicans who are really no more than fundamentalists in vestments will split off and form a version of the continuing Anglican church, or whatever they will call it. And the moderate conservatives and the moderate progressives will settle down to business as usual. After much worry, the Archbishop of Canterbury will be able to have a good night's sleep. The church is safe.
blah blah blah
next we will have to accept practicing adulteres as bishops. please we do not have to act on all of our sexual desires and we are told not to act on homosexual desires should we have them adulterous and premaritial and bestial and incestous we do not fear those who dont resist but that doesnt mean we have to endorse the acting on those and not state that they are contrary to gods ordinance and cannot be said to be recommended by someone saying what they are saying is from the mouth of god
whatever happened to the causes of crime we allready have people being tracked monitored and tottured without trial and accusation explanation rhyme or reason for being happy do you care about outniggering the tories oh heck yeah
Thursday, September 27, 2007
have a go heroes
it seems that they think it is lack of legislation
but i am sure it is lack of courage and interest compassion in the psyche of the people this is a moral and attitudinal problem and there is no way you can give citizenship by legislation basicly this government seems to think you can legislate all of the personal development that would make and has made this country in the past great but you need a spiritual teacher to do that like jesus. who's followers are increasingly politically incorrect due to the god delusion.... however you need an air of freedom to become all that you can be too much legislated morality and your spirit and creativity is stifled some things wont go wrong but the highest ideals cannot be attained this way only via freedom and education
it seems that they think it is lack of legislation
but i am sure it is lack of courage and interest compassion in the psyche of the people this is a moral and attitudinal problem and there is no way you can give citizenship by legislation basicly this government seems to think you can legislate all of the personal development that would make and has made this country in the past great but you need a spiritual teacher to do that like jesus. who's followers are increasingly politically incorrect due to the god delusion.... however you need an air of freedom to become all that you can be too much legislated morality and your spirit and creativity is stifled some things wont go wrong but the highest ideals cannot be attained this way only via freedom and education
Friday, September 21, 2007
rebelious celibates? rauncy celibate women
this article was called porn by the library yet again =. how can the guardian website be a sponsor of porn and how could a post on celibacy qualify!!
this article was called porn by the library yet again =. how can the guardian website be a sponsor of porn and how could a post on celibacy qualify!!
the jena 6 new rights movement justice in the justice system for blacks
jena six time to remove the justice racists
note they miss out that there were two white on black attacks before this one that the police did nothing about one was with a gun!!!!!!
biased media
neither have they mentioned the attorney who defended the guy who they were marching for the one who was supposed to be sentenced that day but had his sentence overulled
was so unfairly tried it was a joke
guardian does a better job
too many foreign docotors ... start to displace homegrown rather than make up shortfall in good doctors.
goverment imports 2 many foreign doctors
i knew this was a problem as there have been many anti foreign doctor hits in the news that could only come from a desire to discriminate against them.
i think certainly as someon who trains in the uk you shouldnt have to emigrate to get a job in your proffession
certainly get in foreign doctors to fill up the shortfall but if there is no shortfall then there has to be some adjustment so that they are not imported.
we all know this the devil is in the details they have to work to get it right
they could hire outside advisors to help with the head work as they are not nescessarily the best to do the policy work although it is their job.
i knew this was a problem as there have been many anti foreign doctor hits in the news that could only come from a desire to discriminate against them.
i think certainly as someon who trains in the uk you shouldnt have to emigrate to get a job in your proffession
certainly get in foreign doctors to fill up the shortfall but if there is no shortfall then there has to be some adjustment so that they are not imported.
we all know this the devil is in the details they have to work to get it right
they could hire outside advisors to help with the head work as they are not nescessarily the best to do the policy work although it is their job.
better?
this article seems to be guidance to school from governments not legislation though we must start looking at goverment site
this article seems to be guidance to school from governments not legislation though we must start looking at goverment site
regulation of the internet and free speech coming through the back door via creep?
i agree its good to be able to block certain senders of hate mail though it should be possible to get the offenders brought to book if they are sending hate mail to you you have the evidence the teachers should move.
there is something wrong with our culture that such a wave of menace is out there i would like a comparision to other nations in europe and usa.
i think though regulation of the internet content could well start a dangerous move to censorship of satire and dissent just think of what the 9 11 truth movement has done for good the ron paul campaign and the tasering incident and that would have been shut down most likely i think kids will always gossip about teachers behind there back and sharing spoof videos amongsts each other is hardly going to do serious damage to the teachers unless they are logging on to facebook and myspace and watching them. I think they need to state excatly what they are going after because there are allready laws in place to counter most forms of illegal and the most damaging kinds of speech slander and defamation are allready prosecuteable and i am sure harrasment is allready written into the things that are not legally allowed by the service providers all that should be needed is for the existing legislation to be enacted i dont think bullying can be legislated away anyway it is a pernicious social problem and probably requires a more cultural problem. big government making draconian laws sets a great example of bullying especially when you cant get to know what you have been accused of and have no way of acessing the justice system that is oppressing you.
i agree its good to be able to block certain senders of hate mail though it should be possible to get the offenders brought to book if they are sending hate mail to you you have the evidence the teachers should move.
there is something wrong with our culture that such a wave of menace is out there i would like a comparision to other nations in europe and usa.
i think though regulation of the internet content could well start a dangerous move to censorship of satire and dissent just think of what the 9 11 truth movement has done for good the ron paul campaign and the tasering incident and that would have been shut down most likely i think kids will always gossip about teachers behind there back and sharing spoof videos amongsts each other is hardly going to do serious damage to the teachers unless they are logging on to facebook and myspace and watching them. I think they need to state excatly what they are going after because there are allready laws in place to counter most forms of illegal and the most damaging kinds of speech slander and defamation are allready prosecuteable and i am sure harrasment is allready written into the things that are not legally allowed by the service providers all that should be needed is for the existing legislation to be enacted i dont think bullying can be legislated away anyway it is a pernicious social problem and probably requires a more cultural problem. big government making draconian laws sets a great example of bullying especially when you cant get to know what you have been accused of and have no way of acessing the justice system that is oppressing you.
Wednesday, September 19, 2007
news links september
gambling in uk survey 250,000 addicts we will see if they push this up with their new casino legislation
profit from misery?!
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/itn/20070919/tuk-britain-has-250-000-problem-gamblers-dba1618_1.html
tony blair was wrong on civl liberties but we need action not rhetoric
ron paul may be doing us a favour
demonstration right revoked promised but nothing done
id biometric now secretly taken by schools
dna database eugenetics?!
detention without accusation!!
mental healt act we dont care you will be medicated whether you think you need it or not even in your own home. we will get you!!! black man!
A minister has rejected Tony Blair's argument that people must be ready to accept reductions in their civil liberties in the fight against terror because "the rules of the game have changed".
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Tony McNulty, Home Office minister responsible for security, said that Mr Blair's argument was one of a number of mistakes made by the Government in the wake of the July 7 terror attacks in London in 2005 and the September 11 atrocities in the USA.
Acting as if the rules which have governed the British way of life and protected individuals' liberties had changed may even have played into the hands of the terrorists, he suggested.
Too much weight was given to a legislative clampdown on terror groups and not enough to winning the hearts and minds of the Muslim community.
Within weeks of the July 7 attacks, Mr Blair announced a raft of legislative measures to tackle terrorists, including tougher deportation and extradition powers, a new offence of glorifying terrorism and powers to close a place of worship.
Confronting criticisms that his measures would infringe civil liberties, he responded bluntly: "Let no-one be in any doubt, the rules of the game are changing."
But Mr McNulty suggested that ministers had been too ready to adopt exceptional measures which could impact on the liberties enjoyed as part of the British way of life.
He told a meeting sponsored by the Institute of Public Policy Research on the fringe of the Labour conference in Bournemouth that mistakes had been made by the Government, but that ministers had learnt from those mistakes and altered their approach.
"What are the mistakes?" he asked. "With the best will in the world, where we are at now as a Government means that we are coming round to the view that says, actually, the rules of the game haven't changed and to suggest that the rules of the game have changed and we need some specific response to this specific threat is actually to help the other side more than our own side.
"The more these things are tackled through normality, with some little exceptions on top, rather than absolutely by exception, the better. The more your response is rooted in our civil liberties and human rights, with whatever slight tweaks at the top, the better."
profit from misery?!
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/itn/20070919/tuk-britain-has-250-000-problem-gamblers-dba1618_1.html
tony blair was wrong on civl liberties but we need action not rhetoric
ron paul may be doing us a favour
demonstration right revoked promised but nothing done
id biometric now secretly taken by schools
dna database eugenetics?!
detention without accusation!!
mental healt act we dont care you will be medicated whether you think you need it or not even in your own home. we will get you!!! black man!
A minister has rejected Tony Blair's argument that people must be ready to accept reductions in their civil liberties in the fight against terror because "the rules of the game have changed".
(Advertisement)
Tony McNulty, Home Office minister responsible for security, said that Mr Blair's argument was one of a number of mistakes made by the Government in the wake of the July 7 terror attacks in London in 2005 and the September 11 atrocities in the USA.
Acting as if the rules which have governed the British way of life and protected individuals' liberties had changed may even have played into the hands of the terrorists, he suggested.
Too much weight was given to a legislative clampdown on terror groups and not enough to winning the hearts and minds of the Muslim community.
Within weeks of the July 7 attacks, Mr Blair announced a raft of legislative measures to tackle terrorists, including tougher deportation and extradition powers, a new offence of glorifying terrorism and powers to close a place of worship.
Confronting criticisms that his measures would infringe civil liberties, he responded bluntly: "Let no-one be in any doubt, the rules of the game are changing."
But Mr McNulty suggested that ministers had been too ready to adopt exceptional measures which could impact on the liberties enjoyed as part of the British way of life.
He told a meeting sponsored by the Institute of Public Policy Research on the fringe of the Labour conference in Bournemouth that mistakes had been made by the Government, but that ministers had learnt from those mistakes and altered their approach.
"What are the mistakes?" he asked. "With the best will in the world, where we are at now as a Government means that we are coming round to the view that says, actually, the rules of the game haven't changed and to suggest that the rules of the game have changed and we need some specific response to this specific threat is actually to help the other side more than our own side.
"The more these things are tackled through normality, with some little exceptions on top, rather than absolutely by exception, the better. The more your response is rooted in our civil liberties and human rights, with whatever slight tweaks at the top, the better."
Tuesday, September 18, 2007
tazered for the truth
another tasering of a student for supposedly not showing his id at a library
i allready have forwarded it to everyone in my address book
we follow the united states and have recently got tazer guns
i am not sure yet if asking a well presented but politically hot question would get you arrested and tazerd especially as he was as polite as he could by means of introduction and the senator was happy to answer the question.
you cannot say that a politically difficult questioin is disturbing the peace at a political rally when you are given the microphone and time to give your question?!!!
the scene caused by the police afterward is certainly a disturbance of the peace after the guy spoke if they had left him alone kerry would have answered and that would have been that no one in the audience would agree with you that the guy was disturbing the peace by speaking in the manner he spoke he wasnt particularly loud like shouting or shouting with a bull horn
if you think his manner wasnt as polilte as it could be you should note the content of his question
disenfranchisment of black voters and rigged elections is not the kind of thing that should be completely unmoving to those who withness it. he didnt use any bad words or to incite violence as far as i could make.
he didnt fight he spoke he didnt challenge to a fight,
"They must find it difficult...
those who have taken authority as the truth,
rather than the truth as authority."
----- Original Message ----
From: John Ripley
To: Jason Rollin
Sent: Tuesday, 18 September, 2007 12:27:05 PM
Subject: Re: Better Video of Student Tasered
Jason,
Not sure how things work in England, but here's some insight into our own laws:
Disturbing the peace is a crime generally defined as the unsettling of proper order in a public space through one's actions.
This can include creating loud noise by fighting or challenging to fight, disturbing others by loud and unreasonable noise (including loud music or dog barking), or using offensive words likely to incite violence.
Disturbing the peace is typically considered a misdemeanor or an infraction depending on the jurisdiction and is often punishable by either a fine or brief term in jail.
However, a person held in breach of the peace will not have a criminal record entered against their name; which would otherwise seriously hurt the person's future dealings with authorities, or when seeking future employment.
If law enforcement officials are unable to detain the suspect in a peaceful manner, or if the suspect is resisting arrest, causing harm or creating a security risk, or is engaging in violence, use of less-than-lethal weapons is permitted in order for officers regain control of the suspect, granted he or she has been sufficiently warned of the intent to use of the weapon prior to the discharge.
If you need to hear the "bad language" that he used, I refer you to this video (more complete). I don't think I really have to mention that this kid is addressing a United States Senator in such a way that you shouldn't even talk to your own parents...
The long and the short of it: this guy had it coming. The police will consider your call a mere annoyance and go about their less-than-lethal protocol as usual. Interesting video though! Please, for the sake of the officers who did the right thing, do NOT forward this email to everyone in your address book! Thanks.
Saturday, September 8, 2007
breaking news
Thursday, September 6, 2007
Cameron's 'national service' plan
initial angry response tempered after realising it wasnt compulsory
then encouraging charity work is good but it is not national service there are other ways to get voluntary service and it is up to the voluntary sector to do it though inspiring people to do charitable things is good
any legislation is likely to have a coercive side which is stupid forcing people to give to charity?? then i see the money incentive now you are paying people to give to charity ?? thats also strange philosophicly not a frugal thing for government to do?! in the end i guess national service is something they want to bring back in and this is a program that could seem benign but then be ramped up and at least condition the children to being controlled by the government in this war on terror which nobody believes in army places are hard to fill so they are angling for the draft?!
ask the church about character reform dont think forcing national service is going to do any more than the allready compulsory work placement scheme does for fixing the morals of britain.
Cameron's 'national service' plan
ITN - 1 hour 38 minutes agoTory leader David Cameron wants every 16-year-old to devote their summer to "patriotic" national service under radical proposals for fixing Britain's "broken society".
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School leavers would be encouraged to join six-week projects such as military training, working with the elderly and even travelling overseas to help in Third World countries.
Mr Cameron said he felt "very passionate" about the idea, saying: "This will make people feel proud about themselves and about their country."
Young people would not be legally obliged to take part in the National Citizen Service but Mr Cameron said he hoped it would be too attractive to pass up.
Participants would be eligible for a cash sum on completion, with half going to a charity of their choice and the rest to the organisation that ran the project.
Mr Cameron said: "It will mix people from different countries. North and south, black and white, rich and poor. They will be putting something back into the community.
He continued: "It will be a way of learning respect for our country and each other just like national service was.
"This could really change our country for the better. I feel very passionate about this. It should be a part of every child's experience.
"You should go from primary school to secondary school, and then at 16 your citizen service. We cannot afford not to do this."
then encouraging charity work is good but it is not national service there are other ways to get voluntary service and it is up to the voluntary sector to do it though inspiring people to do charitable things is good
any legislation is likely to have a coercive side which is stupid forcing people to give to charity?? then i see the money incentive now you are paying people to give to charity ?? thats also strange philosophicly not a frugal thing for government to do?! in the end i guess national service is something they want to bring back in and this is a program that could seem benign but then be ramped up and at least condition the children to being controlled by the government in this war on terror which nobody believes in army places are hard to fill so they are angling for the draft?!
ask the church about character reform dont think forcing national service is going to do any more than the allready compulsory work placement scheme does for fixing the morals of britain.
Cameron's 'national service' plan
ITN - 1 hour 38 minutes agoTory leader David Cameron wants every 16-year-old to devote their summer to "patriotic" national service under radical proposals for fixing Britain's "broken society".
(Advertisement)
School leavers would be encouraged to join six-week projects such as military training, working with the elderly and even travelling overseas to help in Third World countries.
Mr Cameron said he felt "very passionate" about the idea, saying: "This will make people feel proud about themselves and about their country."
Young people would not be legally obliged to take part in the National Citizen Service but Mr Cameron said he hoped it would be too attractive to pass up.
Participants would be eligible for a cash sum on completion, with half going to a charity of their choice and the rest to the organisation that ran the project.
Mr Cameron said: "It will mix people from different countries. North and south, black and white, rich and poor. They will be putting something back into the community.
He continued: "It will be a way of learning respect for our country and each other just like national service was.
"This could really change our country for the better. I feel very passionate about this. It should be a part of every child's experience.
"You should go from primary school to secondary school, and then at 16 your citizen service. We cannot afford not to do this."
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